A Private Discussion (tag Charles, Cable)
Aug 27, 2018 20:10:27 GMT -6
Post by Alagosa on Aug 27, 2018 20:10:27 GMT -6
(This was started on the old board and has been transfered.)
>>Xavier nodded "I do agree wholeheartedly that he is a menace Magnus..." Charles said with nod and thought about what he could say or do. He knew Magnus had a point. hHis is why things were always the way they were with the two of them. They both understood why the other took the position they did but they never took the same side. It made him sad in a way because it cost a rather good friendship
"Unfortunately with his position from what I saw in the man's mind even one such bigot can become a martyr in the correct circumstances and apparently that is what happens if you go through with your plans. What is worse is that the sentinels come back. If you would like I can share the images he shared with me. His very memories of what happens as that is if he is unwilling to give you anything. But I will have you talk to him and I will call him in right now." Xavier said with a heavy sigh. He knew the future would be dim if Magnus assassinated trump. It did seem odd that such a seemingly unintelligent bigoted, misogynistic and racist man could be so important to the future. It seemed almost right in a way to do what Magnus
Xavier focused and called out "Nathan...please come here a moment. There is someone you need to speak to" He only hoped Cable would both convince Magneto of his error and this would not cause any issues. IF cable could convince Magneto then perhaps all hope would not be lost.<<
Magneto was not truly convinced about the man who was identified by Charles as Cable and also being from the future. This person had future knowledge and was willing to share it to save mutant kind from an extermination that he said was going to happen if they succeeded in killing the president-elect. That was rather far-fetched but not outside the realm of possibility.
"People are made into martyrs everyday. Why look at what one man dying on a cross did for religion. I don't usually doubt what you have to say but that man's base is rather rabid and motivated for the wrong reasons. I will listen to what this man Cable has to say and take everything he tells under advisement."
That was the best he could give Charles considering the alternatives that they were faced with and his old friend wouldn't have said these things without knowing they would have some impact on him and what he planned. Charles was always a good chess player and strategy was not lost upon him. Check...what move could he do to counter this and not let the full impact fall upon them.
"Magnus...that is all I ask. At least listen to the man. Know he has let me probe him enough to know he is in fact telling the truth of his words. And As I said I agree about Trump but there has to be another way, a way without the violence." Xavier sighed
"After all do we want to prove Trump right about us? Because from what I understand this assassination only serves to do just that, which is why it backfires. And what is worse is from what he told me and the others...the sentinel program starts to get funded again by the government...and we both know what happens after that..." Xavier nodded and waited for Cable to come in so he could tell Magneto exactly what he told charles. He hoped he could get through to him...as he did agree about Trump obviously however killing him wasn't the answer.
"After all do we want to prove Trump right about us? Because from what I understand this assassination only serves to do just that, which is why it backfires. And what is worse is from what he told me and the others...the sentinel program starts to get funded again by the government...and we both know what happens after that..." Xavier nodded and waited for Cable to come in so he could tell Magneto exactly what he told charles. He hoped he could get through to him...as he did agree about Trump obviously however killing him wasn't the answer.
Nathan had been eating a croissant that Cate had made earlier. The kid could bake and it was delicious. Washing it down with a beer, he let out a soft belch just as he heard the Professor leap into his mind. He winced slightly, knowing the man could read his thoughts at all times...
With a heavy sigh, he wondered just who the man had for him. He had a feeling, intuition if you will, that it was Erik. He'd known that this was coming..
Wiping off the frosting from his mouth, his feet pushed away from the wall of the kitchen island as he slid his chair out. Running a hand through his spiked silver hair, he bent his neck to each side, smiling as he heard the cracks. Slowly approaching the study, he folded his arms "Heh, not surprised." he remarked, his expression not showing emotion at all.
With a heavy sigh, he wondered just who the man had for him. He had a feeling, intuition if you will, that it was Erik. He'd known that this was coming..
Wiping off the frosting from his mouth, his feet pushed away from the wall of the kitchen island as he slid his chair out. Running a hand through his spiked silver hair, he bent his neck to each side, smiling as he heard the cracks. Slowly approaching the study, he folded his arms "Heh, not surprised." he remarked, his expression not showing emotion at all.
When Cable entered he was given an appraising eye as he finally entered the door fully. Once Magnus had finished that he decided to ask the man what the future was like and if they were to have any peace in it.
"I have to wonder the validity of your time traveling. I know that Charles fully believes you as that is his nature. I would of course allow Charles access to mind if I wasn't worried about my people being targeted by his X-Men. I want you to tell me about your bleak and dystopian future. How could this happen with so many mutants to fight it?"
He had gotten straight to the point. He trusted Charles to a certain point. After all their students had been in conflict in the past and he didn't want them to have a reason to be in further conflict. It was just how he thought. He knew that perhaps they already knew the location of their boarding house but no need to reveal any pending future plans he might have to Charles.
"I have to wonder the validity of your time traveling. I know that Charles fully believes you as that is his nature. I would of course allow Charles access to mind if I wasn't worried about my people being targeted by his X-Men. I want you to tell me about your bleak and dystopian future. How could this happen with so many mutants to fight it?"
He had gotten straight to the point. He trusted Charles to a certain point. After all their students had been in conflict in the past and he didn't want them to have a reason to be in further conflict. It was just how he thought. He knew that perhaps they already knew the location of their boarding house but no need to reveal any pending future plans he might have to Charles.
Charles saw Nathan enter the room and nodded as Magnus spoke and then said "I know it's difficult Cable...but this is the man you say started it all. Please tell him what you told me, and if you can also show him what you showed me earlier." He looked to Magneto
"Now old friend I know this will be difficult for you to digest but what he says is true from what I have seen in his mind and also he had some recordings you need to see." He nodded again to Cable waiting for him to begin. He knew Magneto would not understand how one man would able to affect so much but fact was the man was a man in power. One that ended up being a a martyr. He didn't like it any more than Magnus but that was the way of life or so it seemed.
"Now old friend I know this will be difficult for you to digest but what he says is true from what I have seen in his mind and also he had some recordings you need to see." He nodded again to Cable waiting for him to begin. He knew Magneto would not understand how one man would able to affect so much but fact was the man was a man in power. One that ended up being a a martyr. He didn't like it any more than Magnus but that was the way of life or so it seemed.
"How's it possible? I've got one word for ya... Sentinels, and tt's the worst environment imaginable, Erik." he spoke as his voice grew husky, grizzled.
"Imagine the Holocaust, but with more technology. Imagine a leader so vile, he puts Hitler, Stalin, and Kim Jong Un to shame...combined." he spoke as he folded his muscular arms. "Labor camps and mutants working as slaves to survive. If anyone refuses, they've got a bullet in their head or their family is cleaned out of the barracks. "You're dead, sorry bud. The professor, here, is missing, probably being tortured by the redheaded bitch that they refuse to let me incinerate." he responded coolly as he bent his neck to crack it "Most of your team is dead, Erik. Those that had survived joined me and some of the other living X-Men and created the Mutant Alliance. We are the resistance. I lead the team with Fury and Wolverine. Right now, they're fighting to keep our headquarters afloat..that's if they ain't dead already." he spoke as he walked over to the window overlooking the court yard.
"You see, Erik, if your time, they're already planning on the recreation of those damn machines. The only thing holding them back is the President's say. They've got the plans written, backups made, and a young girl that's made of spare parts from humans and machines alike. She's the devil and the organizer of all this shit. Now, the government is working through the senate to see if the machines will even be approved. Add the President's assassination by mutants, and you've got a perfect storm. So, your happy little plan to kill the orange beefstick ain't gonna work."
"Imagine the Holocaust, but with more technology. Imagine a leader so vile, he puts Hitler, Stalin, and Kim Jong Un to shame...combined." he spoke as he folded his muscular arms. "Labor camps and mutants working as slaves to survive. If anyone refuses, they've got a bullet in their head or their family is cleaned out of the barracks. "You're dead, sorry bud. The professor, here, is missing, probably being tortured by the redheaded bitch that they refuse to let me incinerate." he responded coolly as he bent his neck to crack it "Most of your team is dead, Erik. Those that had survived joined me and some of the other living X-Men and created the Mutant Alliance. We are the resistance. I lead the team with Fury and Wolverine. Right now, they're fighting to keep our headquarters afloat..that's if they ain't dead already." he spoke as he walked over to the window overlooking the court yard.
"You see, Erik, if your time, they're already planning on the recreation of those damn machines. The only thing holding them back is the President's say. They've got the plans written, backups made, and a young girl that's made of spare parts from humans and machines alike. She's the devil and the organizer of all this shit. Now, the government is working through the senate to see if the machines will even be approved. Add the President's assassination by mutants, and you've got a perfect storm. So, your happy little plan to kill the orange beefstick ain't gonna work."
Magnus looked at the man who went by the identification for a piece of equipment that was used to bring humans their paltry entertainment. They could easily receive daily the bread and circuses that the bigot in charge wished them to eat and enjoy. He was skeptical about anything he said because while he was uncouth and reminded him of Wolverine he was parroting what Charles said to him. He would not remove his helmet just so he could be incapacitated by Charles and therefore forestall the inevitable that would come to man who had stolen one of the most coveted offices in the world.
"Yes you speak as if this nation or any other nation hasn't already done this. I witnessed it once and will not be lectured by you."
These were not revelations but due course of how human's fear motivated them to create things to destroy the things they feared. They didn't have the foresight to see that sometimes those creations ran amok and saw you as part of the problem. It was just either a sad story or the truth.
"If we succeed this woman or creature, since you refer to her as a bitch and the hatred you feel is palpable, takes over and is able to kill not only most the X-Men but my Brotherhood? Why do I find this either a poor attempt to stop my plans or an actual view of the future? Tell me Cable, since we are now on a first name basis, your team isn't as capable as some woman and a bunch of robots? Why is that? Is it training or just overwhelming force? What of the other mutants in the world. They have powers even if they aren't human looking. How is is possible for them to be rounded up and worked to death? Your story has some holes in it."
He looked at Charles and waited for a reply. It was plausible but not a reality because even as bad as the government was they wouldn't stoop so low as to order the wholesale extermination of mutants and by proxy themselves.
"Yes you speak as if this nation or any other nation hasn't already done this. I witnessed it once and will not be lectured by you."
These were not revelations but due course of how human's fear motivated them to create things to destroy the things they feared. They didn't have the foresight to see that sometimes those creations ran amok and saw you as part of the problem. It was just either a sad story or the truth.
"If we succeed this woman or creature, since you refer to her as a bitch and the hatred you feel is palpable, takes over and is able to kill not only most the X-Men but my Brotherhood? Why do I find this either a poor attempt to stop my plans or an actual view of the future? Tell me Cable, since we are now on a first name basis, your team isn't as capable as some woman and a bunch of robots? Why is that? Is it training or just overwhelming force? What of the other mutants in the world. They have powers even if they aren't human looking. How is is possible for them to be rounded up and worked to death? Your story has some holes in it."
He looked at Charles and waited for a reply. It was plausible but not a reality because even as bad as the government was they wouldn't stoop so low as to order the wholesale extermination of mutants and by proxy themselves.
Xavier looked to Magnus " What he says is true. When they have a reason, or a martyr in this case, from what I have seen they rally and reopen the sential program and kill and enslave us. I will let Cable answer however think of this Magnus. Enough people voted for him for him to get the electoral votes to obtain the office. That alone should say the state of unrest about those like us and anyone else that is different. " he said with a sigh.
He thought of Rhona "And the woman he speaks of? I am hoping to get her help. She is away from those that have trained her and kept her away from the world so perhaps her fate also can be changed. It doesn't...It doesn't have to be like this" Charles wanted to stress that the future he saw would hopefully be able to be avoided It needed to be. He waited for Cable to speak again. Perhaps the truth of his worlds, no matter how coarse they were. Cable was very straightforward but he was a good man.
He thought of Rhona "And the woman he speaks of? I am hoping to get her help. She is away from those that have trained her and kept her away from the world so perhaps her fate also can be changed. It doesn't...It doesn't have to be like this" Charles wanted to stress that the future he saw would hopefully be able to be avoided It needed to be. He waited for Cable to speak again. Perhaps the truth of his worlds, no matter how coarse they were. Cable was very straightforward but he was a good man.
Cable grew more annoyed by the second. These two used to be close friends and now they barely trusted each other. They worked together in his world, formed alliances and died together. Erik Lenshirr was using his past as an excuse to create corruption and get revenge on today’s humans for their previous mistakes. He was blindly seeking to hurt everyone who crossed his path. It wasn’t smart and it wasn’t right.
“Erik, if you could get past your damn ego, and actually listen to reason, you’ll see what we are right. You really think that killing the President will solve the issues? Pence is worse in the fact that he’s more experienced and has the know-how. He’s a snake and will slither his way into anyone’s mind that isn’t paying attention. People are already afraid of us. They’re scared of what we’re capable of. They will find out who killed the president and that will unleash hell on us. They’ll kill us all and mop the floors with our bodies. We will fight back and a war will begin.
A.
Never.
Ending.
War.”
His voice held a sense of urgency that carried the weight of a ton of bricks. His eyes went wide and his breath was heavy “They have plans for Setinels. They have cyborgs and lab created monsters that they can and WILL bring forth. They will give us power-dampening collars and send us into concentration camps. Your Holocaust, Erik? Think that threefold. People will die. You will die. Your kids, Pietro and Wanda, right? Yeah, Wanda is lucky to be alive, but Pietro was ripped apart. Even with his speed, they got him.
So, do whatever the fuck you want, but know that you’ll be responsible for the worst genocide in history. I’m going to go try and save what we have left.”
With that, he grabbed the handle of the door and stormed out “I need a fuckin’ drink!”
“Erik, if you could get past your damn ego, and actually listen to reason, you’ll see what we are right. You really think that killing the President will solve the issues? Pence is worse in the fact that he’s more experienced and has the know-how. He’s a snake and will slither his way into anyone’s mind that isn’t paying attention. People are already afraid of us. They’re scared of what we’re capable of. They will find out who killed the president and that will unleash hell on us. They’ll kill us all and mop the floors with our bodies. We will fight back and a war will begin.
A.
Never.
Ending.
War.”
His voice held a sense of urgency that carried the weight of a ton of bricks. His eyes went wide and his breath was heavy “They have plans for Setinels. They have cyborgs and lab created monsters that they can and WILL bring forth. They will give us power-dampening collars and send us into concentration camps. Your Holocaust, Erik? Think that threefold. People will die. You will die. Your kids, Pietro and Wanda, right? Yeah, Wanda is lucky to be alive, but Pietro was ripped apart. Even with his speed, they got him.
So, do whatever the fuck you want, but know that you’ll be responsible for the worst genocide in history. I’m going to go try and save what we have left.”
With that, he grabbed the handle of the door and stormed out “I need a fuckin’ drink!”